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Post by jeepchipjones on Nov 16, 2004 14:07:26 GMT -5
I took the liberty Craig and went ahead and started your project Bronco write up for you. Everybody stay tuned for this crazy build up. Its gonna be a long, hard road, but the final result will leave us all in aw  . |
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Post by rsmith on Nov 16, 2004 16:23:32 GMT -5
I think we need to establish some criteria: 1. Is it going to be street legal? 2. I am assuming we have an unlimited budget  3. Tire size: 36" down or 36" up? 4. Full width? Sometimes I find it hard to mix hardcore with street legal, on the other hand I am limited to trails that I can pull a trailer to and dump my junk off. Some trails you have to drive the street a while to get to them. something to think about |
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Post by jeepchipjones on Nov 16, 2004 17:03:50 GMT -5
I dont want to steal his glory, but I do know this:
1. Full width dana 60 front/14 bolt rear
2. hydraulic steering
3. new cage
4. suspension is still in the air
A. leafs w/ long shocks
B. fox shocks w/ links
5. dove tailed front and rear
6. maybe street legal, but barely if it is; definitely not highway worthy
7. fuel cell
8. stinger bumper
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Post by rsmith on Nov 16, 2004 18:10:33 GMT -5
That is a great list, but I would have to recommend a 3 or 4 link rear suspension with coils. I have done it twice now and it is not as hard as it seems. It sure plants the power to the ground. If you run leaves you are probably going to want to build some kind of traction bar anyway - with a trinagulated rear suspension it is built in. It also gives you the opportunity to stretch that wheelbase farther than the leaves will allow you to go.
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Post by jeepchipjones on Nov 17, 2004 1:31:38 GMT -5
This is true. I hope he goes with the Fox Airshox and links. Hey Rob, check out this contraption:  Allows for articulation, but elminates axle wrap as long as you have some lower links I believe. I like it! |
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Post by jeepchipjones on Nov 17, 2004 4:12:25 GMT -5
Heres what we have to look forward to....  |
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Post by rsmith on Nov 17, 2004 7:50:17 GMT -5
That track bar is certainly a contraption. I see his idea, but is it attached to the body? I see some kind of support on the far side. Here are some pics of the tried and true designs that most folks are running now:    |
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Post by Busted Knuckle Racing on Nov 17, 2004 7:57:55 GMT -5
Chip, that thing looks like it could bottom out and hit the tub...
I can't see that it does anything really. Maybe replaces a trackbar?
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Post by jeepchipjones on Nov 17, 2004 8:13:56 GMT -5
One, it resist axle wrapping due to its position. You cant really tell where its mounted, but it would be easy to run some tubing in b/w the frame rails that it could attach to. Two, it allow the axle to droop directly down as well as flex like crazy since the pivot point is directly in the center of the axle instead of 2 connections on top spread out. The closer your links are to the center of the axle, the more flexability of the axle. You would then only need a set of lower links with some heim joints or johnny joints.
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Post by jeepchipjones on Nov 17, 2004 8:18:23 GMT -5
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Post by Busted Knuckle Racing on Nov 17, 2004 8:23:24 GMT -5
sorry dude, thats not going to stop axle wrap. It still allows the housing to pivot. Best way is a ladder bar like Rob posted
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Post by jeepchipjones on Nov 17, 2004 8:51:34 GMT -5
sorry dude, thats not going to stop axle wrap. It still allows the housing to pivot. Best way is a ladder bar like Rob posted Explain... |
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Post by rsmith on Nov 17, 2004 8:54:53 GMT -5
Here is a pic of the wishbone upper link that we just made for the Willys/Shopping Cart project. It is going to flex well and control axle wrap at the same time. This is what I am running in the back of my Bronco, but with a few improvements. Jason is building a mud truck and has used this type suspension in the rear of it as well. I say if someone is going to build a suspension include all of the good qualities into the design. This pic may not be real pretty as nothing has not been cleaned up.  |
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Post by jeepchipjones on Nov 17, 2004 9:45:47 GMT -5
What kind of connection is that right above the chunk? I think a heim joint would work well there. What about the extreme difference in lengths of the upper link and the lower links? Does that affect how much flex you can get? It seems that the closer the lengths are, the more flex you would get. I may be talking jibberish though, since I pulled another all nighter last night  . |
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Post by Busted Knuckle Racing on Nov 17, 2004 10:21:06 GMT -5
more flex is not always better... like when you are 9 feet in the air in a shopping cart  |
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