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Post by rsmith on Dec 1, 2004 18:21:42 GMT -5
I am thinking about making a tube buggy out of the frame that we are using for the shopping cart in the Christmas parade. Jason e-mailed me some pictures of some cool looking designs and I thought I would put them up and see what you guys think. I have a complete Willys cj2a body that I was thinking about incorporating into the design. What are some positives and negatives of the following designs or maybe a combination of the different designs that will be better? I won't say what I think right now, because I don't want to persuade any thoughts. So what do you guys think? Design 1  Design 2  Design 3  |
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Post by Busted Knuckle Racing on Dec 1, 2004 18:38:43 GMT -5
I'm diggin the 3rd one
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Post by JWP on Dec 1, 2004 20:47:32 GMT -5
I don't care what it looks like as long as we just start it the first day after deer season.  or before. when I build a buggy, I am going to have a combination of 2 and 3 with part of a cj7 hood and grille. |
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Post by jeepchipjones on Dec 1, 2004 22:00:17 GMT -5
They all seem pretty sturdy, looks like there may be some trouble getting in and out, but other than that, I like them all. I think Im leaning towards #2 right now though. I dont like the tube work around the windshield in #1, cant tell really in #2. Ive always like the halo tops (not saying it should be circular), a continuous piece of tube wrapping around the top and tying back into the rear maybe. I like designing cages on my laptop, so Ill help you out if you need it. What do you think of this?  |
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Post by 69fj40 on Dec 6, 2004 21:31:31 GMT -5
Where did you find the pic of the FJ-40. I have a 69 that i am going to try and rebuild. At first was going to just do a body off rest. but it would take a lot more money and time and i just want something to play around in so then i got to thinking about making a buggy similar to that one.
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Post by JWP on Dec 7, 2004 6:35:59 GMT -5
Where did you find the pic of the FJ-40. I have a 69 that i am going to try and rebuild. At first was going to just do a body off rest. but it would take a lot more money and time and i just want something to play around in so then i got to thinking about making a buggy similar to that one. If you go to www.pirate4x4.com/forum and search under High5 you find all kinds of info on him. What I know is that his frame is 2x4 and 2x5 square and the tubing is 1.75 round. He is running 105 wheelbase and 42 TSL. He just switch from leafs all around to having coils in the rear. There is a pretty good write up on that. He runs a 5.3 liter chevy, th400, atlas, Dana 60 front narrowed to 62 inches and a Eaton rear. That's all I can remember now. |
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Post by jeepchipjones on Dec 7, 2004 22:56:42 GMT -5
Hey Rob, I found your evil twin  |
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Post by rsmith on Dec 7, 2004 23:53:22 GMT -5
That is absolutely awesome! Thanks for posting that pic. I was kinda wondering what direction to go when the sheet metal got too mangled. I forsee me losing the back half just like that.
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Post by jeepchipjones on Dec 8, 2004 2:07:17 GMT -5
It looks like he has Fox Airshox in the back, those are SWEET! I think they can hold up 1000 lbs each and 5000 lbs together (one in each corner).
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Post by JWP on Dec 8, 2004 6:29:33 GMT -5
I am to dumb to post pictures, but there is a bronco buggy thread on pirate that is pretty cool looking. It uses complete bronco skins for the outside.
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Post by Busted Knuckle Racing on Dec 8, 2004 7:29:12 GMT -5
That bronco is cool... I like the boatside, and Rob could already use that... ;D
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Post by broncocraigellis on Dec 8, 2004 11:33:50 GMT -5
i like buggies, but you could build one heck of a capable flattie without all of the tube. the tube will just add a bunch of weight since you already have a full length frame. i would just build a nice cage for it, throw some 37 boggers on it and go wheeling. flatties are incredible offroad. they fit where other stuff won't, but the wheelbase is tough on climbs. bigger is better in most instances, but we don't compete in our rigs so why not just build it for fun? the only time you'd worry about the wheelbase is on a steep, long climb so just hook up a winch. there's no shame in that. i do think a full-bodied flattie would be the coolest thing out there on the trails. lots of character, and very capable in stock form. believe me i've seen it. it's amazing what a flatfender will do with lockers and 32" tires. it's like a fourwheeler with articulation, you can fit between the big rocks. just my .02
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Post by rsmith on Dec 8, 2004 13:33:03 GMT -5
Craig this is what I was originally thinking about doing with my custom frame and old Willys body. I built the frame to have a 101" wheelbase. That puts the center of the rear axle on the back edge of the body. I am kinda thinking along the same thoughts as you at the moment. I think complete tube chassis looks pretty wicked, but for some reason I like for a rig to resemble something. I enjoy hearing folks stand around and say "yeah I remember in the good old days how I spent a lot time in one of these old things".  |
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Post by broncocraigellis on Dec 10, 2004 12:05:17 GMT -5
my sentiments exactly, i know several people who learned how to drive in flatfenders and they have very fond memories. the flatfender is in a class by itself. the jeep that won wwII, first civilian jeep, they are just plain cool enough with a stock body. look at the 14 day flattie in peterson's for inspiration. that thing is clean, simple, and it works really well for its intended purpose. it's just a fun rig, and that's why i'm into this.
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Post by broncocraigellis on Dec 10, 2004 12:06:18 GMT -5
that's a cool mb in the pic from gray rock
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